VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

Olsens.M · Dec 28, 2021

varage said:
That game helped you out of your depression?! You truly are a madman lol.

I am glad you can't even understand sarcasm lol.
Funny is, you guys hate AL but when someone criticizes what they don't like in BAD you guys wanna argument about every word I say lol.
AL was my first VN ever. I was in lockdown searching for (cheap) games to play on steam and after playing "Life is Strange", my first game with story and based on the player choices, I decided I wanted more of the same style. I skipped BaD because I saw it was a game all about sex and decided to buy AL.
As I said, I only played the game once, I couldn't bring myself to try any other gameplay/path of that game, and right after I finished it, I deleted the game from my pc.
I didn't hate that game. It was what made me love and look for more VNs to play. To be honest with you, I was a lot reluctant to try Being a Dik, because in my mind it was all about sex and it wasn't what I was looking for at the moment.
So I bought CoBD next, and it was all about sex anyway.
I was "depressed" more for the fact that I was stuck in my house without being able to go out. I also had covid. And even though AL was a fucking sad game, it gave me a lot to think about my life. Different of you I didnt think any character was souless. We had a girl who was abused by her step dad and needed help. She was just a young woman, We had the girl who helped mc and cared for mc when he was in coma and we had the best friend, that I found out later that my MC wasn't being a best friend at all. He didn't know about anything that was going on in his BF life, but yet he was able to help MC and stood beside MC in every path and hard moments of his life, he was selfless. Sometimes when you are depressed, knowing that other people are going through some hard shit but they are not giving up and they are trying their best for themselves and those around them can be a good motivation to work on things in your life. That is why, different from most people, I loved that game and got into VNs.
So yes, I am a madman.

sixart · Dec 28, 2021

MarkOlsen said:
There is an ignore button for a reason, Learn how to use it.

Words to live by... you can apply it yourself as well

MarkOlsen said:
Sometimes I think to stop talking about it, but then I see posts like this and the replies and it just gives me more energy to keep going, so yes,

Ahhh ! There we have it ! Finally !!! See it was not that hard to admit to yourself... you ARE a sad sack of shit who does this on purpose because...

MarkOlsen said:
I will keep discussing subjects about Maya

... there is a slight difference between discussing things and spreading hatred !

Of course you can't fathom that since you are what you are so just keep up the good fight !

MarkOlsen said:
So yes, I am a madman.

Dude...

Is this a " me against the world " moment ?

Olsens.M · Dec 28, 2021

sixart said:
Words to live by... you can apply it yourself as well

Ahhh ! There we have it ! Finally !!! See it was not that hard to admit to yourself... you ARE a sad sack of shit who does this on purpose because...

... there is a slight difference between discussing things and spreading hatred ! Of course you can't fathom that since you are what you are so just keep up the good fight !

Dude... Is this a " me against the world " moment ?

I am not the one who is bothered by all Maya discussion. I see a lot of people who are bothered but they don't just hit ignore on me. I see a lot of people complaining about my point of view, like you, but still quote me everytime. And yes, I am a sad sack of shit. And I, being the sad sack of shit, having you giving so much attention to a sad sack of shit, wonder does that make you then?

At least I know what I am lol.
I am the sad sack of shit with Captain America mentality. "I can do this all day".

sixart · Dec 28, 2021

MarkOlsen said:
At least I know what I am lol

Good for you !

I guess... and I really do hope many will read your statement and act towards you accordingly !

Final words : you should really " investigate " the difference between " discussion " and " spreading hated " ... but since you went to college it's hardly possible to come to fruition

DavDR · Dec 28, 2021

Jimayo said:
This game clearly takes place in the U.S. so how about we use that as the baseline. And yes, it's impossible in the U.S.

That's been discussed.

In the US Maya wouldn't have a problem. She doesn't need a co-signer for a loan because the government is the co-signer. If her Dad took a loan for her college then she just needs to drop out, the bank will claw back the loan when it's not used for tuition, Maya has no debt for life, her Father has no leverage on her. Then Maya can take out a government loan and continue her education and her life.

It's been pointed out repeatedly that there is no loan problem. Maybe Maya is just really stupid and doesn't realize it. So then she can find out, with just a little effort. How?

She could google it on her phone. If she can't afford internet for her phone she could go to the library and look it up, or use one of their computers.

She could ask any teacher.

She could ask her girlfriend, who is a Business Major and in any sane, competently written universe, would surely know.

I wrote all that out just to show that it is impossible for Maya's Father to force her to stop dating someone with the threat of withholding any help with her college cost in any real world scenario. And no, her Father's church isn't going to loan her the money, in the US that's regulated. If that was the case she just has to walk away, she can't be held liable for the debt. If a church or any other organization is giving her money for college it's a scholarship, and that doesn't have to be repaid.

So we can't use the realworld situation as a baseline. Maya lives in Duckburg and the rules of the universe are different there.

So where does that leave us?

It leave's us with Maya, a pathetic, useless character who is perpetually in need of a savior. If you want to be Maya's savior go to it, enjoy yourself. But not everyone wants that, even though we are forced to endure it, Maya just won't go away and let other people enjoy the rest of the game.

kyrlian · Dec 28, 2021

Heycock said:
I get the point, if you feel that you want to help someone who cant deal with their problems you actually want them to feel miserable and dependent for the rest of their lifes. The correct aproach is to see them try by their own medias even if they miserable fail.

Now you're playing victim and retorting my words. I clearly said we all like to help others, please read first and try to understand and empathize with the other. I know, I'm not a virtual blonde girl but c'mon put some effort.

Heycock said:
Now please do not try to explain this to the huge amount of people who help other people like, i dont know. volunteer firefighters for example.

Stop with the nonsense, please. Everybody has helped someone in need at least once if not hundreds of times. Everybody. You feel special for helping a virtual waifu in a game or what? C'mon man

Being a volunteer firefighter is selfless not selfish. Transactional love is selfish instead. I'll gladly explain to you what I was trying to say:

Some guys do X and expect Y in return, so the way they work is this: they fix her car or act like her butler or chauffeur and expect the girl to love them back as "payment" for their efforts. So, what they are trying to do is to exchange "help" to obtain love. That's why the need for the eternal damsel in distress, the "help" has to go on and on to receive the "love". This is called "codependency" in psychology, and it needs a giver and a taker. Is quite common.

Healthy couples are different. They love, not trade. They are more balanced. One may need extra support sometimes but do not follow the White Knight/Princess dynamic all the time. See the difference?

Now, I'm not saying all Maya fans are like this. Nothing like that, so don't go that way. Cheers

Olsens.M · Dec 28, 2021

sixart said:
Good for you ! I guess... and I really do hope many will read your statement and act towards you accordingly !

Final words : you should really " investigate " the difference between " discussion " and " spreading hated " ... but since you went to college it's hardly possible to come to fruition

I dont care about what you think. I am having my fun while you are getting tilted over there lol. I am discussing. As far as I know I only pointed things I didn't like on DPC story towards maya, and pointed things I don't like about her. If it seems spreading hatred, it comes from you, maya fans, who actually tried to offend me, even if you failed. You guys actually started with personal attacks when I am jsut talking about Maya and what DPC wrote about her and forced my mc go through even if I made all choices to get away from her

. If it seems repetitive, or spreading hatred is because you are here over and over and over again replying to me.
You just can't handle that someone won't love maya like you do lol.

AchedCroissant · Dec 28, 2021

Carolyn said:
"I just caan't get you out of my head"

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wait, you might be right

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These newbies here now wouldn't even have the honor of kissing the floor I walk on

Only now I want to avoid the bans

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Ilhares · Dec 28, 2021

Carolyn said:
I just woke up and saw another ten pages... GREAT

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Hey, I hear you, but at least it's not release week. I changed my settings months ago to show 100 posts per page. There were over 100 new pages in the release window, about 1/3 of which was "My game crash 'here', why?", as if it was a new problem, when it could have been solved by the most basic of reading comprehension.

drooopy · Dec 28, 2021

i've seen people with college debt speak less about college debt than the people on this forum

maya topics are as boring as her character

sixart · Dec 28, 2021

MarkOlsen said:
As far as I know I only pointed things

Yeah... that's the real problem here... you don't even realise it !

Or better yet you don't even wanna realise it what's the difference...

MarkOlsen said:
it comes from you, maya fans

FYI : I'm not a Maya fan... I'm not a fan of ANYONE in particualar !

Strange huh ?

Welp smarts don't come automatically with college degree...

Olsens.M · Dec 28, 2021

DavDR said:
That's been discussed.

In the US Maya wouldn't have a problem. She doesn't need a co-signer for a loan because the government is the co-signer. If her Dad took a loan for her college then she just needs to drop out, the bank will claw back the loan when it's not used for tuition, Maya has no debt for life, her Father has no leverage on her. Then Maya can take out a government loan and continue her education and her life.

It's been pointed out repeatedly that there is no loan problem. Maybe Maya is just really stupid and doesn't realize it. So then she can find out, with just a little effort. How?

She could google it on her phone. If she can't afford internet for her phone she could go to the library and look it up, or use one of their computers.

She could ask any teacher.

She could ask her girlfriend, who is a Business Major and in any sane, competently written universe, would surely know.

I wrote all that out just to show that it is impossible for Maya's Father to force her to stop dating someone with the threat of withholding any help with her college cost in any real world scenario. And no, her Father's church isn't going to loan her the money, in the US that's regulated. If that was the case she just has to walk away, she can't be held liable for the debt. If a church or any other organization is giving her money for college it's a scholarship, and that doesn't have to be repaid.

So we can't use the realworld situation as a baseline. Maya lives in Duckburg and the rules of the universe are different there.

So where does that leave us?

It leave's us with Maya, a pathetic, useless character who is perpetually in need of a savior. If you want to be Maya's savior go to it, enjoy yourself. But not everyone wants that, even though we are forced to endure it, Maya just won't go away and let other people enjoy the rest of the game.

kyrlian said:
Now you're playing victim and retorting my words. I clearly said we all like to help others, please read first and try to understand and empathize with the other. I know, I'm not a virtual blonde girl but c'mon put some effort.

Stop with the nonsense, please. Everybody has helped someone in need at least once if not hundreds of times. Everybody. You feel special for helping a virtual waifu in a game or what? C'mon man

Being a volunteer firefighter is selfless not selfish. Transactional love is selfish instead. I'll gladly explain to you what I was trying to say:

Some guys do X and expect Y in return, so the way they work is this: they fix her car or act like her butler or chauffeur and expect the girl to love them back as "payment" for their efforts. So, what they are trying to do is to exchange "help" to obtain love. That's why the need for the eternal damsel in distress, the "help" has to go on and on to receive the "love". This is called "codependency" in psychology, and it needs a giver and a taker. Is quite common.

Healthy couples are different. They love, not trade. They are more balanced. One may need extra support sometimes but do not follow the White Knight/Princess dynamic all the time. See the difference?

Now, I'm not saying all Maya fans are like this. Nothing like that, so don't go that way. Cheers

I really love people who think outside the box. Thanks guys. We are not hating, we are pointing out the character flaws in our point of view or even story flaws, Not everyone has to see things like we do, that doesn't mean we won't talk about it. Whatever we say here won't change anything that is already written by DPC, that doesn't mean we won't say "what if..."
When we are not loving everything a dev may have done, people want to throw rock at us like if we are hurting their family lol.
I am sorry though for quoting you both, I just loved what you wrote. <3

godkingxerxes · Dec 28, 2021

You know if Tybalt hooked up with you know who, it'll solve all the problems.

No more tuition because Tybalt has stacks on stacks.

No more horrible skin, because Tybalt is fresh and won't tolerate someone not being fresh.

And no more Josy in prison, she'll be free to join the MC and Jill

mindern · Dec 28, 2021

DavDR said:
That's been discussed.

In the US Maya wouldn't have a problem. She doesn't need a co-signer for a loan because the government is the co-signer. If her Dad took a loan for her college then she just needs to drop out, the bank will claw back the loan when it's not used for tuition, Maya has no debt for life, her Father has no leverage on her. Then Maya can take out a government loan and continue her education and her life.

It's been pointed out repeatedly that there is no loan problem. Maybe Maya is just really stupid and doesn't realize it. So then she can find out, with just a little effort. How?

She could google it on her phone. If she can't afford internet for her phone she could go to the library and look it up, or use one of their computers.

She could ask any teacher.

She could ask her girlfriend, who is a Business Major and in any sane, competently written universe, would surely know.

I wrote all that out just to show that it is impossible for Maya's Father to force her to stop dating someone with the threat of withholding any help with her college cost in any real world scenario. And no, her Father's church isn't going to loan her the money, in the US that's regulated. If that was the case she just has to walk away, she can't be held liable for the debt. If a church or any other organization is giving her money for college it's a scholarship, and that doesn't have to be repaid.

So we can't use the realworld situation as a baseline. Maya lives in Duckburg and the rules of the universe are different there.

So where does that leave us?

It leave's us with Maya, a pathetic, useless character who is perpetually in need of a savior. If you want to be Maya's savior go to it, enjoy yourself. But not everyone wants that, even though we are forced to endure it, Maya just won't go away and let other people enjoy the rest of the game.

Honestly. I’m just impressed by you now.

ive been on the Internet a long time and never have I seen someone so damn sure they know literally everything about a topic as you are when in comes to every single individual countries laws regarding something as broad as “loans”. You have just singlehanded declared what’s going on in this game 100% impossible.

Why are you even here? Why aren’t you earning millions brokering transactions across the globe? You have a skill that’s highly sought after and you’re using it to debate the realities of a porn game?

Get off here, go make your fortune. Teach the world how finance works.

or option B is you’re talking out your ass, you know as much about this topic as everyone else but your blind arrogance won’t let you even entertain the idea of being anything less than infallible.

Olsens.M · Dec 28, 2021

sixart said:
Yeah... that's the real problem here... you don't even realise it ! Or better yet you don't even wanna realise it what's the difference... View attachment 1566371

FYI : I'm not a Maya fan... I'm not a fan of ANYONE in particualar ! Strange huh ?

Welp smarts don't come automatically with college degree...

I mean, You came with personal attacks after I mentioned, answering to another guy, I had depression. I am deffo not smart, you are. After all, that is what the "smarts" do. Start with personal attacks when they lack arguments. First you tried by saying I was a Sad Sack of shit for having depression, and now trying to say I am not smart even after having college degree.
I am pretty sure you'd be surprised I also have PhDs

DavDR · Dec 28, 2021

mindern said:
Honestly. I’m just impressed by you now.

ive been on the Internet a long time and never have I seen someone so damn sure they know literally everything about a topic as you are when in comes to every single individual countries laws regarding something as broad as “loans”. You have just singlehanded declared what’s going on in this game 100% impossible.

Why are you even here? Why aren’t you earning millions brokering transactions across the globe? You have a skill that’s highly sought after and you’re using it to debate the realities of a porn game?

Get off here, go make your fortune. Teach the world how finance works.

or option B is you’re talking out your ass, you know as much about this topic as everyone else but your blind arrogance won’t let you even entertain the idea of being anything less than infallible.

Maybe you have a problem with reading comprehension, in the post that you sighted above I was answering another post that suggested we use US law as a baseline. That's just what I did.

Olsens.M · Dec 28, 2021

mindern said:
Honestly. I’m just impressed by you now.

ive been on the Internet a long time and never have I seen someone so damn sure they know literally everything about a topic as you are when in comes to every single individual countries laws regarding something as broad as “loans”. You have just singlehanded declared what’s going on in this game 100% impossible.

Why are you even here? Why aren’t you earning millions brokering transactions across the globe? You have a skill that’s highly sought after and you’re using it to debate the realities of a porn game?

Get off here, go make your fortune. Teach the world how finance works.

or option B is you’re talking out your ass, you know as much about this topic as everyone else but your blind arrogance won’t let you even entertain the idea of being anything less than infallible.

Do you even know what they are talking about? The guy he answered is talking specifically about loans in the US, and he is replying if it was based on how it happens in the US, most of things that happens in the game wouldn't happen. He is specifically talking about ONE country. Why are you saying he is so damn sure about how it goes for every single individual countries laws? why are you making it sound like he is talking about every other country outside US when he is specifically talking about US only?

So if someone happens to know about one subject they should be rich, just for expressing his opinion about it?
Also, he was very polite on his reply to another dude, why you sound so butthurt about it when he wasn't even replying to you?
He even said that nothing has to work in the game like it does in real life lol.
The guy can't give his opinion anymore or he is gonna be attacked now. So many people full of anger. And I am the one spreading hatred.

DavDR · Dec 28, 2021

MarkOlsen said:
Do you even know what they are talking about? The guy he answered is talking specifically about loans in the US, and he is replying if it was based on how it happens in the US, most of things that happens in the game wouldn't happen. He is specifically talking about ONE country. Why are you saying he is so damn sure about how it goes for every single individual countries laws? why are you making it sound like he is talking about every other country outside US when he is specifically talking about US only?

So if someone happens to know about one subject they should be rich, just for expressing his opinion about it?
Also, he was very polite on his reply to another dude, why you sound so butthurt about it when he wasn't even replying to you?
He even said that nothing has to work in the game like it does in real life lol.
The guy can't give his opinion anymore or he is gonna be attacked now. So many people full of anger. And I am the one spreading hatred.

Don't worry, it's just a typical Maya fan

sixart · Dec 28, 2021

MarkOlsen said:
I was a Sad Sack of shit for having depression

That's not the reason for it... see ? Lack of smarts... even if you have PhD(s) which makes it so much worse to twist and turn someones intensions or doings you just be you !

MarkOlsen said:
And I am the one spreading hatred.

Nope you are just one of them... and your shifts won't fool anyone... any decent being can do right... but even if they go wrong they just admit it and try to not make the same mistakes again

Hopey those PhDs of yours will help to decipher this message

mindern · Dec 28, 2021

DavDR said:
Maybe you have a problem with reading comprehension, in the post that you sighted above I was answering another post that suggested we use US law as a baseline. That's just what I did.

They said as a baseline then agreed with you this world is unique but you couldn’t let it go because true to form you had to disagree. Throughout this clusterfuck of a few days talking about this loan issue all you’ve done is sit there and go “nah you’re wrong because X”.

Where X is you spouting your understanding about international law like it’s fact. Bringing reality into fiction not to better understand it but as a stick to disagree with people. To be contrary.

Thing is, you actually agree with me on this whole thing which is this story doesn’t take place in any country on earth. It has its own made up laws and any discussion about how they’re applied is moot. I said it days ago. You said it earlier. So why are you still disagreeing with people? You said it yourself it’s a free for all on this.

You perpetuate this inane monstrosity of a discussion because despite admitting it’s probably a made up legal system you still defend your fucking imagined understanding of said made up legal system (one it’s creator hasn’t even put to paper) by shooting down other peoples opinions. How can anyone be wrong, how can anything be impossible if you’ve established yourself this takes place in a legal system that can do whatever the fuck it likes because it was dreamt up by some porn monger.

Oh it can’t be a loan from her church that’s impossible in this fictional legal system. Says who? You? Can’t be based on the USA because… just cus. You disagree for absolutely no reason other than to shut people up who don’t imagine this scenario like you do.

Granted you’re not the only one doing this but you’re the one being the biggest bell end about it. This entire discussion is pointless. We’ve all conjured up a way to reconcile this plot contrivance and that is how we see it in our mind. Nobody is right or wrong in this regard. It’s a plot element born of maybe 3 lines of dialogue. Exponentially more has been said on this topic here than DPC has ever even dreamed of.

We shouldn’t be shutting down other peoples opinions and citing reality as if it holds any sway in DPC-Land. If someone thinks this is a church loan. Aces. Tribal loan? Cool beans. Maybe swamp gas became sentient and started loaning out cash to bigots. Could be! Fun thought and it doesn’t need you citing international law, the legality of Native American money lending or the likelihood of rotting biological matter becoming sentient to be disproved.

Nobody is wrong, debating this is a waste of time because US law doesn’t extended to fictional porn game. Let’s all move the fuck on.

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